Posts by Nathan Natas

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I told my parents I no longer believe any teachings of JWs
by Fognomore in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
since my last post i have spoke with my parents and told them i am no longer a believer.

i told them i just can't anymore.

here is my short story.
Nathan Natas

I have said in the past that the "Three Pillars" of JWism are Guilt, Shame and Anger.
The feelings you are having are a normal grief reaction to realizing that the World View you were taught was insanely wrong.
Don't be (too) angry with your parents - they were fooled too - even more than you were, because they are still IN!
It is a fact of human psychology that one of the hardest things for most humans to do is to ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. We see this with "investors" all the time - and what bigger "investment" can you make than your ENTIRE FUTURE?
You _DO_ have a right to be angry at the Ponzi schemers and LIARS who fooled you and your folks.
Use that ANGER along with the philosopher's stone of LOGIC to convert that ANGER into ACTION, by first saving yourself, then saving anyone else you can.
You will find allies and friends on this site.
Best wishes, Fognomore!
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Enlighten me If you can
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in
1. watchtower
2. bible
confusing standards or hodge podge?.

what is this about beards i never got the hang of from day one?

are beards ok or not?.
Nathan Natas

Here is my "nutshell" commentary:
A. Jews had beards
B. If Jesus existed, he would have had a beard, because he was the ULTIMATE Jew ("CODENAME: Ultra Jew-1" will be my next movie; watch for it, it is part of my "The Bible for Morons" Animated Series).
C. "Pasta" Charles Taze Russell had a beard.
D. Russellites (mostly just the guys, only a few of the wimmen) had beards of varying degrees of handsomeness in imitation of their Fearless Leader, whose own beard was of "meh" quality.
a recent photo of Pasta Russell:

E. "Stooge" Joseph Franklin Rutherford did NOT have a beard.

F. Therefore, no true Christian would dare wear a beard, unless they are gay, in which case the phrase "wear a beard" has a totally different meaning.
G.. I have no "The Bible for Morons" Animated Series. See? I'm compulsively honest.
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Don't give them 2019
by snare&racket in
1. jw
2. friends
i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.
Nathan Natas

Great post!
Thank you!
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Scary Experience
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in
1. jw
2. experiences
something weird and scary happened to us last nihgt.

we had a few friends over for the weekend.

we love to go hiking and long walks wherever and whenever we can.
Nathan Natas

I'm with DesirousOfChange on this; the only way to be safe in a situation like you encountered is to be sure that YOU are the most dangerous thing out there. If you aren't willing to do that perhaps a bracing tournament of checkers is your speed.
I would urge you to read up on the Zodiac killer if you are able to do so without fainting.
Another thought springs to mind: maybe those two guys were more frightened than you were; you could have called out loudly
"We are over here and we are totally unarmed! We are three women and two frightened old men! We mean you no harm! Have a good evening! Enjoy your nocturnal pursuits! Say,those are some nice knives you're carrying - will you show them to us?"
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Canada, Quebec: a lawsuit will soon begin against the Watchtower
by yalbmert99 in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
yesterday, there was a court sitiing before the pedophilia lawsuit really starts in quebec(canada) on december 17-18, when it will be presented to the court for acceptance.

see article in french:.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/actualites-judiciaires/201811/28/01-5205878-les-temoins-de-jehovah-defendent-leur-traitement-des-cas-dagressions-sexuelles.php.
Nathan Natas

The three legs of The Watchtower are Guilt, Shame and Anger.*
I just wanted to share that sound-byte before someone else says it first.
As you were...
* I could (maybe) expound on this - I could make it a one-hour Public Talk, like in the old days!
But who would be interested? What relevance would it have?
Hmmm... maybe... but more likely maybe not.
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Penny Marshall, dead at 75
by Nathan Natas in
1. social
2. entertainment
from complications of diabetes.. "laverne & shirley" themesong.
Nathan Natas

from complications of diabetes.
"laverne & Shirley" themesong
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This Is It?
by Nevuela in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.
Nathan Natas
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This Is It?
by Nevuela in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.
Nathan Natas

days of future passed asked,
"They used to do , what were they called?"
I think the word you are looking for is resolutions, and they had the audacity to claim that these resolutions
("Be it hereby RESOLVED that we like peanut butter...")
were in FULFILLMENT OF END-TIMES PROPHECY!
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This Is It?
by Nevuela in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.
Nathan Natas

THANKS, Snugglebunny, but I DID find it, in less than an hour!
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This Is It?
by Nevuela in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.
Nathan Natas

So far, the ONLY advantage of getting OLD (I'll be 70 in the summer) is that I can remember things that happened before many of you were born. I hope my memory holds up for a few more years and I prove to be an ancient worthy of your appreciation. Then I will follow my fathers into dust, and the next OLD GUY will have to step up.